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Deliberate, active straw manning sarcasm for the purpose of giving insult and conveying contempt.
Yes, trolling is distinguished from what nyan called "troll-bait" by, for most part, duration. Trolls don't stop picking fights and seem to thrive on the conflict they provoke. If nyan tried to claim that AspiringKnitter was a troll in general - and fail to update on the evidence from after this comment - he would most certainly be wrong.
He wasn't very charitable in his comment, I certainly would have phrased criticism differently (and directed most of it at those encouraging damsel in distress crap.) But for your part you haven't failed the principle of charity - you have failed to parse language correctly and respond to the meaning contained therein.
This is not ok.
The cereal thing is comically mild. The impulse to wish bad things on others is a pretty strong one and I think it's moderated by having an outlet to acknowledge that it's silly in this or maybe some other way - I'd rather people publicly wish me to run out of milk than privately wish me dead.
Calling nyan a jerk in that context wasn't ok with me and nor was any joke about wanting harm to come upon him. It was unjustified and inappropriate.
I don't much care what MixedNuts wants to happen to nyan. The quoted combination of words constitutes a status transaction of a kind I would see discouraged. Particularly given that we don't allow reciprocal personal banter of the kind this sort insult demands. If, for example, nyan responded with a pun on a keyword and a reference to Mixed's sister we wouldn't allow it. When insults cannot be returned in kind the buck stops with the first personal insult. That is, Mixed's.
This is admirably compelling.
Upvoted.
I am happy that someone other than me gets upset when they see these "jokes" on here.
(I also downvoted the "jerk" comment)
[emphasis mine]. You assume that nyan is male. Where did "he" say that? nyan explicitly claims to be a "genderless internet being" in the introductions thread.
Last LW survey came out with 95% male, IIRC. 95% sure of something is quite strong. nyan called Aspiring_Knitter a troll on much less solid evidence. Also, you come from the unfortunate position of not having workable genderless pronouns.
I'll allow it.
That's fair. I used male because you sounded more like a male - and still do. If you are a genderless internet being then I will henceforth refer to you as an 'it'. If you were a genderless human I would use the letter 'v' followed by whatever letters seem to fit the context.
I wished nyan_sandwich to stub eir toe, but immediately regretted it as too harsh.
Well, who knows what MixedNuts' wishes? Wishing wedrifid runs out of milk doesn't exclude this latter possibility.
I'm also reminded, of all the silly things, (the overwhelmingly irrational) Simone Weil:
Everyone does, because I said it!