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Comment author: Alicorn 05 January 2012 09:06:56PM *  2 points [-]

You're a jerk. I hope you run out of milk next time you want to eat cereal.

This is not ok.

The cereal thing is comically mild. The impulse to wish bad things on others is a pretty strong one and I think it's moderated by having an outlet to acknowledge that it's silly in this or maybe some other way - I'd rather people publicly wish me to run out of milk than privately wish me dead.

Comment author: wedrifid 05 January 2012 09:20:53PM *  6 points [-]

The cereal thing is comically mild. The impulse to wish bad things on others is a pretty strong one and I think it's moderated by having an outlet to acknowledge that it's silly in this or maybe some other way

Calling nyan a jerk in that context wasn't ok with me and nor was any joke about wanting harm to come upon him. It was unjustified and inappropriate.

  • I'd rather people publicly wish me to run out of milk than privately wish me dead.

I don't much care what MixedNuts wants to happen to nyan. The quoted combination of words constitutes a status transaction of a kind I would see discouraged. Particularly given that we don't allow reciprocal personal banter of the kind this sort insult demands. If, for example, nyan responded with a pun on a keyword and a reference to Mixed's sister we wouldn't allow it. When insults cannot be returned in kind the buck stops with the first personal insult. That is, Mixed's.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 05 January 2012 10:14:01PM 3 points [-]

When insults cannot be returned in kind the buck stops with the first personal insult.

This is admirably compelling.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 January 2012 09:54:13PM 1 point [-]

Calling nyan a jerk in that context wasn't ok with me and nor was any joke about wanting harm to come upon him. It was unjustified and inappropriate.

Upvoted.

I am happy that someone other than me gets upset when they see these "jokes" on here.

(I also downvoted the "jerk" comment)

Comment author: [deleted] 05 January 2012 10:07:49PM 0 points [-]

wanting harm to come upon him

[emphasis mine]. You assume that nyan is male. Where did "he" say that? nyan explicitly claims to be a "genderless internet being" in the introductions thread.

Last LW survey came out with 95% male, IIRC. 95% sure of something is quite strong. nyan called Aspiring_Knitter a troll on much less solid evidence. Also, you come from the unfortunate position of not having workable genderless pronouns.

I'll allow it.

Comment author: wedrifid 05 January 2012 11:03:31PM *  1 point [-]

[emphasis mine]. You assume that nyan is male. Where did "he" say that? nyan explicitly claims to be a "genderless internet being" in the introductions thread.

That's fair. I used male because you sounded more like a male - and still do. If you are a genderless internet being then I will henceforth refer to you as an 'it'. If you were a genderless human I would use the letter 'v' followed by whatever letters seem to fit the context.

Comment author: MixedNuts 05 January 2012 09:11:47PM 2 points [-]

I wished nyan_sandwich to stub eir toe, but immediately regretted it as too harsh.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 January 2012 09:17:51PM *  1 point [-]

I'd rather people publicly wish me to run out of milk than privately wish me dead.

Well, who knows what MixedNuts' wishes? Wishing wedrifid runs out of milk doesn't exclude this latter possibility.

I'm also reminded, of all the silly things, (the overwhelmingly irrational) Simone Weil:

If someone does me an injury I must desire that this injury shall not degrade me. I must desire this out of love for him who inflicts it, in order that he may not really have done evil.

Comment author: MixedNuts 05 January 2012 09:33:45PM 0 points [-]

who knows what MixedNuts wishes?

Everyone does, because I said it!