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Comment author: [deleted] 05 January 2012 09:46:32PM *  2 points [-]

Delicious controversy. Yum. I might have a lulz-relapse and become a troll.

So... voicing disagreement boldly is trolling, voicing it nervously is trolling and trying to prevent being called out. Signalling distance from the group is trolling and accusations of hive mind, signalling group membership is trolling and going "Seriously, I'm one of you guys". Joking about the image a group idea's have, in the same way the group itself does, is straw-manning and caricature, seriously worrying about those ideas is damsel-in-distress crap.

Burn the witch!

Disagreement is not trolling. Neither is nervous disagreement. The hivemind thing had nothing to do with status signaling, it was about the readers insecurity. The group membership/cultural knowledge signaling thing is almost always used as a delivery vector for a ignoble payload.

They didn't look like jokes or uncertainty to me. I am suddenly gripped by a mortal fear that I may not have a sense of humor. The damsel in distress thing was unconnected to the ideas thing.

TL;DR: what wedrifid said.

Okay, so I see the bits that are protection against being called a troll. What I don't see is the trolling. Is it "I'm a Christian"? If you think all Christians should pretend to be atheists... well, 500 responses disagree with you. Is it what you call straw men? I read those as jokes about what we look like to outsiders, but even if they're sincere, they're surrounded with so much display of uncertainty that "No, that's not what we think." should end it then and there. And if AspiringKnitter where a troll, why would she stop trolling and write good posts right after that?

Again, they still don't look like jokes. If everyone else decides they were jokes, I will upmod my belief that I am a humorless internet srs-taker. EDIT: oh I forgot to address the AS is not troll claim. It has been observed, in the long history of the internet, that sometimes a person skilled in the trolling arts will post a masterfully crafted troll-bait, and then decide to forsake their lulzy crusade for unknown reasons. /EDIT

I hope you run out of milk next time you want to eat cereal.

Joke is on you. nyan_sandwich''s human alter-ego doesn't eat cereal.

nyan_sandwich may have been stricken with a minor case of confirmation bias when they made that assessment, but I think it still stands.