ChristianKl comments on 2014 Less Wrong Census/Survey - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 28 October 2014 08:36:30AM 1 point [-]

The tenets of the Catholic Church that critics pay the most attention to are their beliefs on abortion, contraceptives, homosexuality, etc. even though they are widely ignored by Catholics and certainly less central than "Jesus died for our sins".

If you ask a catholic priest whether the position of the church on abortion is important for him, I think he will say "yes". I you count official speeches and writing by popes I also think that abortion will come up from time to time.

The basilisk is every bit as central to criticsm of LW

We are not talking about criticism of LW. LW as it stands is not important enough in society as a whole to warrant criticism from journalism.

We are talking about centrality to FAI under the assumption that it's a topic that journalists want to write about. maybe in the background of Transcendence that raised the topic a bit in public awareness.

Comment author: Jiro 28 October 2014 08:57:15AM *  0 points [-]

If you ask a catholic priest whether the position of the church on abortion is important for him, I think he will say "yes".

It's not an exact analogy, but it's close because it's much more important to outsiders than to insiders.

The basilisk isn't directly a LW idea. but the basilisk follows from LW-style ideas and is close enough that Eliezer couldn't just say "nothing like the basilisk could possibly work". A closer analogy may be more like, oh, geocentricism. The church does not believe that geocentricism is true any more than LW believes in the basilisk. On the other hand, the man who became the current Pope has pretty much said that the church was right in its treatment of Galileo even if the church was wrong about geocentricism itself. And you still see this used to criticize the church. And I doubt that many priests would think that the way the church treated Galileo is very important compared to either abortion or Jesus dying for our sins.