As listed above, I was a (comparatively small) funder in round #1.
I broadly recommend LC Commons as a platform for making donations. In particular, I liked the experience much better than relying on existing donation funds or trying to ask individuals for donation opportunities ad hoc.
Some things I liked about LC Commons:
Overall, I spent maybe 4-7 hours on the whole process[2], which is still reasonably time-efficient, but it is more involved than using donation funds. I could have spent less time by being more willing to blindly defer to one evaluator.
I.e., in general, in grant-making, there's an incentive not to fund the obvious stuff (which everyone agrees on, and thus will surely get funded by someone else), and instead to focus all funding on stuff that looks good at one's own margin, but which might not make the cut on someone else's broadly similar, but slightly different worldview. If everyone did that, the obvious stuff wouldn't get funded, so it's anti-cooperative. The mechanisms behind LC Commons ensure all funders cooperate by default (though a funder could still hack it if they wanted; and it's easier for an evaluator to defect).
excl. time spent selling stocks and moving money
Lightcone Commons staff do not decide what grants get made.[1] Pls stop saying that "Lightcone Commons funded us", that's a bit like saying "PayPal funded me".
Is there/could I ask for a place with the public information on how much each funder granted to each grantee, not just funded recs? This would let me add intermediaries to https://aisafety.fund/lightcone-commons
I'm an evaluator on the Lightcone Commons platform. If you're interested in applying for funding for research related to human intelligence amplification or advanced reproductive technology, feel free to reach out to me. You can see my interests here: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MBxSbzYECJEoeTkwZ/sff-s-hsee-grant-round-human-intelligence-amplification and here: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ARsZtoq9zaMQHj2wW/projects-that-might-help-accelerate-strong-reprogenetics
Thanks everyone (Lightcone, evaluators, and funders) for this! I'm extremely grateful for the funding recommended to Mox in this first round.
Pls stop saying that "Lightcone Commons funded us", that's a bit like saying "PayPal funded me"
I understand the concerns here (and Manifund is often put in a similar position). But what would you prefer recipients say instead, then? "So, who gave you all this money..." is a common question that a recipient charity might need to be able to answer (eg to satisfy the public or journalists, and also for our own credit assignment purposes, or modeling what our evaluators/funders would have wished us to do.)
I could say "anonymous evaluators and funders from Lightcone Commons" but that's obviously unwieldy and unsatisfying for many situations. I'd love to know what specific evaluators and funders are providing the funds, insofar as any of them are happy to go on the record stating what fraction responsible they were.
(My read of this widget is that Zvi is the evaluator responsible for recommending all $813k that Mox is being recommended, though my guess is that Zvi should only get something like 1-10% of the impact credit for that rec, with a similar amount going to Lightcone Commons, and the vast majority going to the funders)
Yeah, I do want to nudge the funders on the platform more to be open about what they are funding so the grantees have an easier time explaining things here.
I think the best summary is "an anonymous funder donated through Lightcone Commons". This already happens reasonably frequently in my experience, at least in the charity space. E.g. MIRI was funded by an anonymous crypto donor a few years back for a large amount.
I'd love to know what specific evaluators and funders are providing the funds, insofar as any of them are happy to go on the record stating what fraction responsible they were.
FWIW I think we kind of messed up the UI we showed funders here for indicating whether they are OK with sharing their identity with the grantee and/or announcing their grants publicly (one big mistake was indeed tying those two together). I hope we can do better next round here so we can have more transparency.
Oh, I agree that anonymous donations have precedent in the charity space, but in my view it is a norm that could be quite dangerous, especially if the norm were to proliferate. Fundamentally, I think being able to trace money to its upstream funder is quite important for accountability in society (and its dual, credit). Like if someone funds something colossally net negative, it seems pretty important to know who that was.
I understand that some funders want to be able to wash their hands of the optics or knock-on effects of the money they give; and, from the processing & receiving end, it is always so tempting to just do what the people with money want. (I've also accepted tradeoffs which I remain unhappy about, such as not naming the funders behind Manifund's historic AI safety regranting).
I've lately been very happy with all kinds of transparency laws around political giving and charity stuff (eg around the amounts of giving for and against various AI safety initiatives), and appreciate our society for being farsighted in implementing those, even when locally, they hinder the causes I care about.
If I were to update my application, would the fact that it was "refreshed" be visible to evaluators/funders? Or does it make sense to re-submit it in this case?
My current understanding is that your edit shows up in the "activity feed" on the homepage that all evaluators and funders see when they login.
The intended experience is indeed that applicants continue to update their existing page on the site, rather than submit anew every monthly round.
Tl;dr:
Lightcone Commons’ first funding round is complete! 17 evaluators made funding recommendations, including Zvi Mowshowitz, Scott Siskind and Eliezer Yudkowsky. 23 funders coordinated to grant $45.1M, and 147 projects received funding.
Round two is open. Applications for round two close on November 15th and funders confirm their grants by December 14th. Funders can join anytime before December 7th.
In 2027, we will be hosting funding rounds monthly. Yes. Every month.
You can join as a funder, express interest in joining as an evaluator, and apply for funding at lightconecommons.com.
Lightcone Commons staff do not decide what grants get made.[1] Pls stop saying that "Lightcone Commons funded us", that's a bit like saying "PayPal funded me".
Lightcone Commons is an end-to-end philanthropic coordination platform.
We host an open funding application, and invite evaluators to make ordered funding recommendations. Participating funders then decide how much they want to give, and to whom – either by following the recommendations of evaluators or choosing specific projects to fund. When multiple funders want to fund the same project they ‘split the bill’.
Lightcone Commons is not a foundation. We don’t decide to make specific grants. Funders decide what grants to make, aided by evaluators. Lightcone Commons provides the infrastructure for this to happen. We are worried that people will mistakenly understand Lightcone Commons to be a foundation, and say things like ‘I wonder why Lightcone Commons decided to fund X’. This would be sad because Lightcone Commons is not a foundation, and we didn’t decide to fund X. Nor did we decide not to fund X. The funders did (with help from the evaluators).
(Lightcone Commons is not a foundation.)
Round One Overview
Funders
Participating funders included: Agus Covarrubias, AI Risk Mitigation Fund, Andreas Stuhlmueller, Cormac Slade Byrd, Craig Falls, Daniel Kokotajlo, David Farhi, Dustin Moskovitz, Jaan Tallinn, James & Joanna Bregan, Jess Riedel, John Williams, Long Term Future Fund, Matt Putz, Michael Gao, Nate Soares, Nisan Stiennon, Peter McCluskey, Ricson Cheng, Timothy Telleen-Lawton and three anonymous funders.
Funders split the bill on most grants – 79% of the grants were paid by more than one funder. The median grant had four funders, and there were 17 funders behind the most-shared grant.
Evaluators
Each evaluator submitted a funding order (an ordered list of what they would fund) for the round. You can see the evaluators and their funding orders in the following gothic-chic widget.
Of the $45.1M total granted, $41.2M was routed through evaluators. Evaluators are paid 2% of the amount that flows through them[2], and in total evaluators received $693k.
On average each funder chose to fund four evaluators’ funding orders, and 61% of funders used four or more.
Next Round
Round two is open! The relevant dates:
You can apply for funding any time before the close of applications. You can also apply after the close of applications, in which case you will be considered for funding in the next funding round in January. We accept international applications as well as applications from 501c3s, 501c4s, for-profit organizations and individuals.
Ought are also sponsoring an epistemics fund on Lightcone Commons, so if you have projects related to better thinking, whether thats fact checking, forecasting or something else, you can check out their site here. All projects that apply there will be eligible for the funding via the standard evaluators and funders too.
If you are interested in joining as a funder, you can book a call with me, or email habryka@lightconeinfrastructure.com. You can join at any time, with the deadline for participating in round two being December 7th.
We are also looking for more evaluators for Lightcone Commons, especially people who have good funding recommendations in worldviews not already represented on the platform. You can express interest in becoming an evaluator here.
Some Lightcone staff are also active as evaluators on the platform, but ultimately what gets funded is up to the funders
Evaluators can waive their fees as e.g. the fund managers of the Long-Term Future Fund did.
Though based on this round, most funders expect to send us the funds much faster than that