Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Issues, Bugs, and Requested Features - Less Wrong

10 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 February 2009 04:45PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 March 2009 04:30:32AM 5 points [-]

What we actually need around these parts is more voting. Then the occasional downvotes for stupid reasons will wash out faster. Meanwhile, don't sweat it.

Comment author: Annoyance 18 March 2009 08:20:36PM 3 points [-]

"Then the occasional downvotes for stupid reasons will wash out faster."

The frequent downvotes for stupid reasons, however, will accumulate much more rapidly.

Quality control is important. You can't make things better just by doing stuff faster than before, more than before, not least because there are usually quality tradeoffs with speed and quantity.

Comment author: thomblake 18 March 2009 08:26:25PM 0 points [-]

Meh. You said yourself that someone behaving irrationally has unpredictable behavior. So downvotes for stupid reasons are just noise, and should in large numbers be countered by either upvotes for stupid reasons, or other comments' downvotes for stupid reasons. If there is still a considerable amount of voting for good reasons, it should usually show through the noise.

This analysis obviously assumes that there isn't a systemic bias in the mix, like "always upvote Eliezer" or "always downvote Marshall".

Comment author: Annoyance 18 March 2009 08:28:43PM 1 point [-]

"You said yourself that someone behaving irrationally has unpredictable behavior."

No, I didn't. Someone can be irrational, yet completely predictable and consistent. Go back and re-read what I said - you haven't understood it.

"This analysis obviously assumes that there isn't a systemic bias in the mix"

We're dealing with human beings. There are ALWAYS systemic biases involved.

Comment author: thomblake 19 March 2009 02:32:44PM 1 point [-]

You're right - re-reading, I meant to say "people behaving irrationally have collectively unpredictable behavior", to which I assumed you would agree. I was extrapolating that from here:

Irrational thought patterns can be nearly anything, so there's no way to specify an argument that will convince everyone.

I had also argued in the past that one could construct arguments that would convince most people since they're probably irrational in predictable ways, and you disagreed.