In the past few weeks I've noticed a significant change in the Overton window of what seems possible to talk about. I think the broad strokes of this article seem basically right, and I agree with most of the details.

I don't expect this to immediately cause AI labs or world governments to join hands and execute a sensibly-executed-moratorium. But I'm hopeful about it paving the way for the next steps towards it. I like that this article, while making an extremely huge ask of the world, spells out exactly how huge an ask is actually needed. 

Many people on hackernews seemed suspicious of the FLI Open Letter because it looks superficially like the losers in a race trying to gain a local political advantage. I like that Eliezer's piece makes it more clear that it's not about that.

I do still plan to sign the FLI Open Letter. If a better open letter comes along, making an ask that is more complete and concrete, I'd sign that as well. I think it's okay to sign open letters that aren't exactly the thing you want to help build momentum and common knowledge of what people think. (I think not-signing-the-letter while arguing for what better letter should be written, similar to what Eliez... (read more)

I just want to say that this is very clear argumentation and great rhetoric. Eliezer's writing at its best.

I disagree with AI doomers, not in the sense that I consider it a non-issue, but that my assessment of the risk of ruin is something like 1%, not 10%, let alone the 50%+ that Yudkowsky et al. believe. Moreover, restrictive AI regimes threaten to produce a lot of outcomes things, possibly including the devolution of AI control into a cult (we have a close analogue in post-1950s public opinion towards civilian applications of nuclear power and explosions, which robbed us of Orion Drives amongst other things), what may well be a delay in life extension timelines by years if not decades that results in 100Ms-1Bs of avoidable deaths (this is not just my supposition, but that of Aubrey de Grey as well, who has recently commented on Twitter that AI is already bringing LEV timelines forwards), and even outright technological stagnation (nobody has yet canceled secular dysgenic trends in genomic IQ). I leave unmentioned the extreme geopolitical risks from "GPU imperialism".

While I am quite irrelevant, this is not a marginal viewpoint - it's probably pretty mainstream within e/acc, for instance - and one that has to be countered if Yudkowsky's extreme and far-reaching proposals are to have a... (read more)

I think there's an important meta-level point to notice about this article.

This is the discussion that the AI research and AI alignment communities have been having for years. Some agree, some disagree, but the 'agree' camp is not exactly small.  Until this week, all of this was unknown to most of the general public, and unknown to anyone who could plausibly claim to be a world leader.

When I say it was unknown, I don't mean that they disagreed. To disagree with something, at the very least you have to know that there is something out there to disagree with. In fact they had no idea this debate existed. Because it's very hard to notice the implications of upcoming technologiy when you're a 65 year old politician in DC rather than a 25 year old software engineer in SF. But also because many people and many orgs made the explicit decision to not do public outreach, to not try to make the situation legible to laypeople, to not look like people playing with the stakes we have in fact been playing with.

I do not think lies were told, exactly, but I think the world was deceived. I think the phrasing of the FLI open letter was phrased so as to continue that deception, and that the phra... (read more)

There simply don't exist arguments with the level of rigor needed to justify a claim such as this one without any accompanying uncertainty:

If we go ahead on this everyone will die, including children who did not choose this and did not do anything wrong.

I think this passage, meanwhile, rather misrepresents the situation to a typical reader:

When the insider conversation is about the grief of seeing your daughter lose her first tooth, and thinking she’s not going to get a chance to grow up, I believe we are past the point of playing political chess about a six-month moratorium.

This isn't "the insider conversation". It's (the partner of) one particular insider, who exists on the absolute extreme end of what insiders think, especially if we restrict ourselves to those actively engaged with research in the last several years. A typical reader could easily come away from that passage thinking otherwise.

takes a deep breath

(Epistemic status: vague, ill-formed first impressions.)

So that's what we're doing, huh? I suppose EY/MIRI has reached the point where worrying about memetics / optics has become largely a non-concern, in favor of BROADCASTING TO THE WORLD JUST HOW FUCKED WE ARE

I have... complicated thoughts about this. My object-level read of the likely consequences is that I have no idea what the object-level consequences are likely to be, other than that this basically seems to be an attempt at heaving a gigantic rock through the Overton window, for good or for ill. (Maybe AI alignment becomes politicized as a result of this? But perhaps it already has been! And even if not, maybe politicizing it will at least raise awareness, so that it might become a cause area with similar notoriety as e.g. global warming—which appears to have at least succeeded in making token efforts to reduce greenhouse emissions?)

I just don't know. This seems like a very off-distribution move from Eliezer—which I suspect is in large part the point: when your model predicts doom by default, you go off-distribution in search of higher-variance regions of outcome space. So I suppose from his viewpoint, this action does make some sense; I am (however) vaguely annoyed on behalf of other alignment teams, whose jobs I at least mildly predict will get harder as a result of this.

One quote I expect to be potentially inflammatory / controversial:

Make immediate multinational agreements to prevent the prohibited activities from moving elsewhere. Track all GPUs sold. If intelligence says that a country outside the agreement is building a GPU cluster, be less scared of a shooting conflict between nations than of the moratorium being violated; be willing to destroy a rogue datacenter by airstrike.

I'll remark that this is not in any way a call for violence or even military escalation.

Multinational treaties (about nukes, chemical weapons, national borders, whatever), with clear boundaries and understanding of how they will be enforced on all sides, are generally understood as a good way of decreasing the likelihood of conflicts over these issues escalating to actual shooting.

Of course, potential treaty violations should be interpreted charitably, but enforced firmly according to their terms, if you want your treaties to actually mean anything. This has not always happened for historical treaties, but my gut sense is that on the balance, the existence of multinational treaties has been a net-positive in reducing global conflict.

Fox News’ Peter Doocy uses all his time at the White House press briefing to ask about an assessment that “literally everyone on Earth will die” because of artificial intelligence: “It sounds crazy, but is it?”

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