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2019 Review Discussion

"Other people are wrong" vs "I am right"
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Buck
7y

I’ve recently been spending some time thinking about the rationality mistakes I’ve made in the past. Here’s an interesting one: I think I have historically been too hasty to go from “other people seem very wrong on this topic” to “I am right on this topic”.

Throughout my life, I’ve often thought that other people had beliefs that were really repugnant and stupid. Now that I am older and wiser, I still think I was correct to think that these ideas were repugnant and stupid. Overall I was probably slightly insufficiently dismissive of things like the opinions of apparent domain experts and the opinions of people who seemed smart whose arguments I couldn’t really follow. I also overrated conventional wisdom about factual claims about how the world worked,

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TristanTrim1d10

I like the sentiment of this post that "noticing other people is wrong does not make you right", which is very close to a sentiment I've been thinking about, that it should be easier to point out uncertainty without providing replacement certainty. I feel this especially about AI risk, I often wanted to point out other peoples lack of knowledge about how to proceed with AI, even though I had no replacement plan. The general idea is people shouldn't need to know X as a requirement to claim that another person does not know X.

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1Nition3d
My guess here would be that he felt criticised and simply wanted to criticise back to make himself feel better, so he repeated a talking point he'd heard. Since he likely didn't actually hold any strong belief one way or the other, you re-entering the argument later only opened him up to potential further criticism, after he already felt he'd got even. It would be easy to end the thought there and rest happily in the knowledge that him=bad+dumb and you=good+smart, but maybe it's worth examining your own thoughts also. Were your motivations for going away to research and bring the topic back up later actually as pure as written (i.e. "terrified [of] committing some grave moral sin")? Or were you partly motivated also by your own chagrin, hoping for a chance to even the score in the other direction by proving that you were right all along? If so, could that even have influenced your final decision that owning Apple products is morally positive? I don't mean to criticise you specifically (and I certainly don't know what you or he were really thinking), but more point out a way people often think in general. It's worth being careful about how much an argument might come across as an attack, and leaving the other person a way to gracefully admit defeat or bow out of the discussion (I recall expecting that's what Leave a Line of Retreat from the Sequences was going to be about, but it ended up being about something different). If every argument could be respectful, in good faith, and not based on emotion, things would be a lot better. But alas, we're only human.
Integrity and accountability are core parts of rationality
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habryka
6y

Epistemic Status: Pointing at early stage concepts, but with high confidence that something real is here. Hopefully not the final version of this post.

When I started studying rationality and philosophy, I had the perspective that people who were in positions of power and influence should primarily focus on how to make good decisions in general and that we should generally give power to people who have demonstrated a good track record of general rationality. I also thought of power as this mostly unconstrained resource, similar to having money in your bank account, and that we should make sure to primarily allocate power to the people who are good at thinking and making decisions.

That picture has changed a lot over the years. While I think there is still...

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Jasnah Kholin3d10

Interesting. I have no such experience with power, and I somewhat came to... not the opposite conclusion, exactly?

I noticed a lot how incentives are important. for example. I really dislike judging people by words and intentions instead of deeds, because I believe it encourage self-lies, creating conscious self that run in sandbox, as described in The hostile telepaths problem. 

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