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2012 Less Wrong Census/Survey

65 Post author: Yvain 03 November 2012 11:00PM

11/26: The survey is now closed. Please do not take the survey. Your results will not be counted.

It's that time of year again.

If you are reading this post, and have not been sent here by some sort of conspiracy trying to throw off the survey results, then you are the target population for the Less Wrong Census/Survey. Please take it. Doesn't matter if you don't post much. Doesn't matter if you're a lurker. Take the survey.

This year's census contains a "main survey" that should take about ten or fifteen minutes, as well as a bunch of "extra credit questions". You may do the extra credit questions if you want. You may skip all the extra credit questions if you want. They're pretty long and not all of them are very interesting. But it is very important that you not put off doing the survey or not do the survey at all because you're intimidated by the extra credit questions.

The survey will probably remain open for a month or so, but once again do not delay taking the survey just for the sake of the extra credit questions.

Please make things easier for my computer and by extension me by reading all the instructions and by answering any text questions in the most obvious possible way. For example, if it asks you "What language do you speak?" please answer "English" instead of "I speak English" or "It's English" or "English since I live in Canada" or "English (US)" or anything else. This will help me sort responses quickly and easily. Likewise, if a question asks for a number, please answer with a number such as "4", rather than "four".

Okay! Enough nitpicky rules! Time to take the...

2012 Less Wrong Census/Survey

Thanks to everyone who suggested questions and ideas for the 2012 Less Wrong Census Survey. I regret I was unable to take all of your suggestions into account, because some of them were contradictory, others were vague, and others would have required me to provide two dozen answers and a thesis paper worth of explanatory text for every question anyone might conceivably misunderstand. But I did make about twenty changes based on the feedback, and *most* of the suggested questions have found their way into the text.

By ancient tradition, if you take the survey you may comment saying you have done so here, and people will upvote you and you will get karma.

Comments (733)

Comment author: richardlitt 04 November 2012 12:05:48PM 48 points [-]

Survey: done. Learned about deontology/virtue ethics: done.

Thanks LW. First time poster. 8 month lurker.

Comment author: alanog 04 November 2012 09:39:40AM 47 points [-]

Lurker, first time poster and done!

Comment author: BlueSun 03 November 2012 11:54:52PM 40 points [-]

I took it. Thanks for doing this every year, the results are very interesting.

Comment author: Maelin 04 November 2012 08:10:35AM 39 points [-]

Done. I did all of the extra credit except the Myers-Briggs. The IQ test was the most interesting but three or four questions towards the ends were frustratingly difficult and refused to yield their secrets to me; even now I can feel lingering annoyance at the fact that I eventually gave up on them instead of wrestling with them for longer. Oh well.

Comment author: AzrgExplorers 04 November 2012 05:11:13AM 39 points [-]

Did the survey! Also, this is my first comment, as a long-standing lurker!

Comment author: Kytael 04 November 2012 07:46:08AM 37 points [-]

took it. It's interesting to see how the questions change every time I take one of these.

Comment author: GDC3 04 November 2012 07:26:03AM 37 points [-]

I took the survey and all the optional questions. I love answering multiple choice questions.

Comment author: Anja 03 November 2012 11:45:03PM 37 points [-]

Took the survey. Does the god question include simulators? I answered under the assumption that it did not.

Comment author: sanxiyn 04 November 2012 08:28:43AM 36 points [-]

I took the survey. I did Political Compass for the first time, and I found its questions and results rather baffling. Political Compass themselves admit it is culturally biased and mainly for western democracies.

Comment author: MSchmahl 04 November 2012 02:08:49AM 36 points [-]

Took the survey, and all the extra questions.

Comment author: Ezekiel 04 November 2012 12:03:58AM 36 points [-]

Two questions, as I take the survey:

  1. What does "spiritual" mean, in the context of "Atheist [but | and not] spiritual"?
  2. I genuinely have no idea whether I'd prefer low or high redistribution of wealth. What do I tick for my political opinion?
Comment author: Nectanebo 04 November 2012 10:46:29AM 35 points [-]

Took the survey. Feels like I only very recently took the last one.

Comment author: somervta 04 November 2012 10:33:36AM 35 points [-]

Took the survey and all extra questions bar IQ test.

Comment author: woodside 04 November 2012 10:30:56AM 35 points [-]

Took it.

My browser was unable to copy/past most of the links which led to less than initially intended participation on my part. For instance, I took the big 5 quiz because the address was easy to glance at and type into another tab but didn't take other surveys/tests in the bonus question sections because i didn't feel like tabbing back and forth to get the web address correct.

Comment author: DuncanF 04 November 2012 09:34:41AM 35 points [-]

I took the survey. Skipped out at the "unreasonably long" section. Will it handle things properly if I return to it another day?

Note, if you ask me question that I can look up in two seconds flat, and the next question is "without checking sources, assess the probability of the last answer being correct" then I'm not sure you're going to get the results you're looking for. I consider the Internet as part of my partly trustable memory that I reference when I want to achieve success in the world I.e. all the time - but its not clear that's a commonly held opinion.

Comment author: BrassLion 04 November 2012 06:49:46AM 35 points [-]

Took it.

Comment author: moridinamael 04 November 2012 05:04:40AM *  35 points [-]

Took it. Nothing like a census/survey to make you feel like part of a community.


Advisory: RANDOM.ORG will be temporarily unavailable on Sunday 2012-11-04 due to a system upgrade.

Also, in retrospect, I misremembered my own age. It's been ... a busy year.

Comment author: rocurley 04 November 2012 04:28:05AM 35 points [-]

I took it!

Comment author: BenjaminB 04 November 2012 03:17:53AM 35 points [-]

Took it. And I answered all the extra-credit questions that were applicable to me.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 03:13:20AM 35 points [-]

I took the survey! Including some but not all of the extra credit.

Comment author: beoShaffer 04 November 2012 02:40:13AM 35 points [-]

Took it, did most of the extra credit questions. I think that a mixture of already being familiar with the test, and being used to consciously correcting for some bias about self perception may have thrown off my personality stuff.

Comment author: FourFire 04 November 2012 02:29:24AM 35 points [-]

Well... that was a tense couple of hours (damn long survey) I answered every question except for the last.

Comment author: tim 04 November 2012 02:26:58AM 35 points [-]

Took the survey. Called it a day at the "unreasonable" extra credit questions.

Comment author: fowlertm 04 November 2012 12:49:51AM 35 points [-]

Took it.

Comment author: palladias 04 November 2012 12:13:32AM 35 points [-]


Comment author: pscriber 04 November 2012 02:52:14AM 34 points [-]

Took the survey.

Comment author: jbeshir 04 November 2012 02:05:39AM 34 points [-]

Took the survey; doing all the extra tests for the last few extra questions was fairly interesting, not having done many personality tests or taken online IQ tests before.

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 04 November 2012 01:40:59AM 34 points [-]

I took the survey.

I am curious to know whether CFAR questions #2 and #4 are supposed to have a "right" answer.

Comment author: Unnamed 04 November 2012 02:37:59AM 14 points [-]

I'm the CFAR person who is responsible for those questions, and I'll explain them and report on the results after the survey is closed. Until then... no comment.

Comment author: Morendil 04 November 2012 12:10:21AM *  34 points [-]

Survey taken while it was in stealth mode. Good to know it's officially out now!

A funny thing about the calibration question. Last year I gave myself (IIRC) a 35% probability of having the right answer within the interval asked, and got the answer right. This year I missed by two decades, at 55% confidence. Surprisingly that's actually progress - the Brier score tells me this year's is a better result than last year's.

Comment author: RobinZ 04 November 2012 12:06:43AM 34 points [-]

Took it - I hadn't taken an IQ test before, and I found it interesting (and, for the final few questions, quite difficult).

Comment author: Speed 04 November 2012 12:37:11PM 33 points [-]

Took survey, not yet contributed to the site, had lurked a lot over the past few months.

Comment author: biased_tracer 04 November 2012 08:51:45AM 33 points [-]

My first census at LW is done. I gave up on the questions requiring to answer other surveys before, apart from the political compass one which I already did. Looking forward for the results.

Comment author: Solvent 04 November 2012 08:35:48AM 33 points [-]


Comment author: [deleted] 05 November 2012 02:21:35AM 32 points [-]

Took the survey, completed all applicable questions. I'm surprised at how many de-lurkers are a direct consequence of this survey. Welcome, everyone :)

Comment author: Stabilizer 04 November 2012 04:51:55PM 32 points [-]

Took it.

Comment author: Rubix 04 November 2012 12:47:59AM 32 points [-]

Took it. I think the example of 0.5 being interpreted as 0.5% and not as 50% anchored me a bit, but don't see a way to circumvent it.

Comment author: radical_negative_one 05 November 2012 01:55:39PM 31 points [-]

I finished the survey! Including the Unreasonably Long and Complicated part which i admit took even longer than i expected.

Comment author: bbleeker 05 November 2012 01:06:00PM 31 points [-]

Ì took it. ALL of it.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 04:56:12AM 31 points [-]

Took the survey! :)

Thank you Yvain!

Comment author: EricHerboso 04 November 2012 04:09:55AM 31 points [-]

I answered every question, and enjoyed doing so. Thank you for putting this together. (c:

Comment author: kannd 05 November 2012 04:03:22AM 30 points [-]

Done. All of it!

(Also, first LW comment: check.)

Comment author: Suryc11 04 November 2012 06:43:23PM 30 points [-]

Took it!

I am impressed with Yvain's thoroughness overall in drafting this survey.

Comment author: Cinnia 04 November 2012 04:49:06PM 30 points [-]

Took it and decided to de-lurk for the first time. (Hello!) I found the experience rather humbling.

Comment author: jooyous 04 November 2012 08:40:36PM 16 points [-]

I also de-lurked for the first time to take the survey!

I'm too intimidated to post anything else. :(

Comment author: Zando 04 November 2012 11:45:40AM 30 points [-]

Easy and entertaining. Done!

Comment author: ygert 04 November 2012 10:58:59AM 30 points [-]

Took it.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 05:06:21AM *  30 points [-]

I managed to keep myself up after several days of sleep deprivation to complete all that I could but the very last part.

Comment author: Metus 04 November 2012 04:40:42AM 30 points [-]


Comment author: fizzfaldt 05 November 2012 04:42:31PM 29 points [-]

Took the survey; Did everything but the IQ test. I recognized some of the questions, and I decided I didn't have an extra 40 minutes to spare.

<Invocation of ancient tradition>

Comment author: William_Quixote 04 November 2012 06:23:48PM 29 points [-]

Yay! Test taken including all extra questions

Comment author: Benito 04 November 2012 04:38:20PM 29 points [-]

I took the first survey. Everything seemed great! Thanks a lot Yvain. Unfortunately, I couldn't do the last extra questions. Sorry :( The results should be interesting...

Comment author: dstap 04 November 2012 04:36:44PM 29 points [-]

Hello all! Test taken, first post / de-lurking complete. I really enjoy the site and the discussions, and will contribute fairly soon...

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 04 November 2012 12:39:48AM 29 points [-]

The "income" question doesn't state pre- or post-tax — you should say you intend one or the other.

Comment author: Zubon 04 November 2012 01:45:04AM *  13 points [-]

Also individual versus household. I went with individual.

Comment author: vardan 05 November 2012 04:37:56AM 28 points [-]

All done. Can I has points please?

Comment author: KrisC 04 November 2012 07:36:57PM 28 points [-]

I really enjoyed taking the survey. Akrasia! Hope we weren't testing the RNG site. Since it was down I used a more local randomizer.

Comment author: feanor1600 04 November 2012 07:01:31PM 28 points [-]

Took it. The autism test makes it seem like it is easy for people to get more or less autistic with time. I would have scored much higher 10 years ago.

Comment author: Sarokrae 04 November 2012 12:47:29PM 28 points [-]

Thanks for the test Yvain! I did all of it and wasted too much time in the surveys (didn't want to fill in with an existing one in case of calibration errors. In addition to everyone else's comments, I personally didn't find any of the quizzes problematic, got a similar Big Five score to usual, and actually got 10 points more in my IQ test than my self-reported IQ. Looking forward to the results!

Comment author: kalium 05 November 2012 07:05:12PM 27 points [-]

Have been lurking for a few years now; did the survey and most of the extra questions.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 November 2012 01:48:47PM 27 points [-]

I took the survey, and I answered the first extra credit question, but not the others. When I realized it would take THAT long (I hadn't yet scrolled down to reveal each Extra Credit Question was going to be as long as the first), I thought it would take too much time.

Comment author: Hildon_Smith 05 November 2012 05:52:56AM 27 points [-]

I took the survey, and I am posting for the first time. Thank you for such an intriguing community, everyone.

For the hospital question, although I felt very good about the answer from my own mathematics background, I decided to create a Perl script to check one trial, then ran the script in an environment a great many times to produce a distribution. Here is the single trial script. (You will spoil the answer by executing this script, obviously.)

Comment author: Xece 05 November 2012 05:31:00AM *  27 points [-]

Thanks for doing this once again Yvain.

Edit: survey taken.

Comment author: arborealhominid 05 November 2012 12:20:03AM 27 points [-]

Lurker for the past couple years, posting for the first time. I took it, including a good chunk of the extra credit questions.

Comment author: bairyn 04 November 2012 11:57:18PM 27 points [-]

Took it. All of it.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 07:04:45PM 27 points [-]

Took the poll. Thanks Yvain!

Comment author: luff 04 November 2012 04:32:11PM 27 points [-]

Why do I get the feeling that you will tease me about the discrepancy between my probability estimates on aliens in the milky way contra the rest of the universe?

Comment author: roland 04 November 2012 02:06:26PM 27 points [-]


Comment author: aelephant 04 November 2012 01:30:25AM *  27 points [-]

Does "your country" refer to the country you were born in, are a citizen of, or are currently residing in?

Also: Took it. Karma me gentlemen :D

Comment author: Username 06 November 2012 10:11:54PM *  26 points [-]

Took the whole thing, waiting till I get a good night's sleep to do the IQ test and hit submit.

For those who couldn't select or copy the links like me, here they are to click on:

Comment author: zplesivcak 05 November 2012 03:42:35PM 26 points [-]

Took the survey. I've accidentally submitted unfinished one, before answering to all the questions I wanted to answer. Please ignore that submission.

Comment author: shirisaya 05 November 2012 03:37:19PM 26 points [-]

I took the survey and answered everything through the political compass.

Comment author: borntowin 05 November 2012 03:32:26PM 26 points [-]

Took the survey and actually liked it :)

Comment author: fortyeridania 05 November 2012 02:09:34PM 26 points [-]

I took it, and answered many of the "extra credit" questions (though not all of them).

Comment author: incariol 05 November 2012 12:41:45PM 26 points [-]

Done it all!

With all those personality tests and surveys it took me a bit more than an hour, but it was quite interesting (particularly CFAR questions) so I won't complain, much. :)

Comment author: Tuxedage 05 November 2012 01:54:15AM 26 points [-]

Obligatory "took the survey" post.

Comment author: taryneast 05 November 2012 01:14:28AM 26 points [-]

Done... I've been away from LW for a few months due to Other Life Stuff... but happy to fill in another survey.

Comment author: brahmaneya 04 November 2012 07:08:37PM 26 points [-]

Took the survey!

Comment author: WingedViper 04 November 2012 06:24:31PM 26 points [-]

Longtime lurker that finally signed up in July. All questions except for the last ones with the tests. (did the IQ test though)

Comment author: FAWS 04 November 2012 04:40:14PM 26 points [-]

Took the survey.

Comment author: adavies42 04 November 2012 02:55:44PM 26 points [-]

Took it. Note for people on iOS device--iqtest.dk requires Flash, and doesn't tell you what's wrong if you load it on an iPhone /iPad/iPod.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 02:08:56PM 26 points [-]

Taken. Comments:

In the “More Children” question, I interpreted “planning” very broadly -- I definitely want to have children some day, but not in the next few years. And I'm assuming that finding a girlfriend (which I'm kinda working on) counts as the first step in the “plan”. ;-)

In the “Work Status” question, I interpreted “currently” broadly -- I graduated last month, and know I've been accepted for a PhD even though I'm not officially starting until later this month, so I didn't pick “Unemployed” even though I technically am right now, because that would only mean that you opened the survey in the wrong month.

As usually, in the “Political” question I'm nearly totally disregarding the labels and mostly disregarding the examples, focusing on the descriptions instead.

In the “Religious Views” question, what do apatheism and ignosticism (essentially fancy words for ‘don't care’ and ‘don't understand’ respectively) count as? I'm assuming as “Agnostic” (essentially a fancy word for ‘don't know’).

In “Moral Views”, I'm counting rule consequentialism as a form of consequentialism, rather than as a form of deontology.

iqtest.dk does count as a “respectable test”, right?

“you may do so using any resource EXCEPT the answers to previous Less Wrong surveys” -- I've already read them; how do I erase them from my memory? ;-) (especially for the IQ calibration question...)

I'm lumping into Many Worlds all interpretations not experimentally distinguishable from it even in principle. Is that right?

In the questions about aliens, I'm taking “intelligent” to mean ‘at least as intelligent as a typical human right after the Upper Paleolithic Revolution’; if octopuses/crows/dolphins/gorillas would also count as “intelligent”, my answers would be much closer to 100. (And if you're asking the question for Great Filter-related purposes, I think asking about “civilizations” --i.e. cultures at least as advanced as humans right after the agricultural revolution-- would be more interesting and my answers would be somewhat lower.)

In the question about cryonics, I'm assuming that reconstructions in which a Bayesian superintelligence guesses your brain state from all available evidence including your writings, pictures/videos/living people's memories of you, etc. (I can't remember what they are called) don't count. (Also, I'm interpreting “frozen today” as “staying frozen today”, rather than “getting frozen today” -- the preservation techniques were likely worse in the past than they are now, so the latter would be a higher number.)

In CFAR Question 4, is there a typo in Drug C? Otherwise it's completely obviously worse than B, and I can't see the point of including it unless it's to make sure we're paying attention.

In CFAR Questions 5-7, I think in metres, not feet, and I think that having to do mental conversions may have destroyed whatever anchoring effect I might have gotten from the random number (much like people tend to do better in the Cognitive Reflection Test when forced to activate their System 2 e.g. by taking the test in a language they're not fluent in).

My answer to the “Charity” question is a lower bound, though it's definitely within a factor of 2 of the true amount (unless you use a ridiculously broad definition for “charity”).

In the “SRS” question, does “do you use” mean ‘do you ever use’, or ‘do you currently use’? I used SRSs before but I haven't in months, though I'm very likely to use them again some day in the future. (Given that “Never heard of these” is listed separately, I'm guessing you mean ‘do you currently use’ and answering “No”.)

I'm assuming that searching for a LW wiki article for the purpose of linking to it in a comment and skimming it to make sure I got to the right one doesn't count as “read[ing] the LW wiki”.

My answers to “Hours Reading”, “Hours Writing” and “Hours Online” are very rough estimates. They could be off by a factor of 2.

I'd want the answer “Rarely / only tried a few times” for the “Smoking” question too. “No, I have never smoked” is not literally true so I answered “No, I used to but I quit”, but it's misleading because 1. I've never had a habit of smoking, and 2. it's not like I have committed to never smoke a single cigarette again.

I have solved the Schrödinger equation for the hydrogen atom before, but if I tried to do that now on my own I think I'm very likely (85%) to make some mistake on the first attempt. But if I guess the spirit of the question correctly, I ought to say “Yes”.

In “Number of Languages”, I'm counting as a “language” any dialect with its own ISO 639-1, 639-2, or 639-3 code (the way the Italian Wikipedia does), and as “fluent” any language in which I think I would qualify for the C1 or C2 level on the CEFRL. In my case, for a pair of definitions to yield a lower/higher number they'd have to be unreasonably narrow/broad IMO, but I wanted to point this out anyway.

In “Income”, I answered with the yearly grant I'm going to be given for my PhD -- my income for the past year was practically zero.

In “Anonymity”, following whoever it was who proposed that question, I'm taking “easy” to mean ‘trivial’, so I'm picking the third answer -- but I don't think it would be much harder for (say) EY to find out my full name than it was for me to find out what Roko's basilisk was about.

In “P(Space)”, I'm counting as “space” anywhere over 100 km above mean sea level (so Felix Baumgartner doesn't count); also, my answer is a Fermi estimate, and if I were to spend half an hour making it more precise it could change by as much as an order of magnitude.

Comment author: MixedNuts 04 November 2012 01:32:38AM 26 points [-]

I now have the whole set of Myers-Briggs letters. Something tells me this test is noisy.

You might want to look at North Americans and others separately for the redwood questions, to see if domain knowledge affects anchoring.

Comment author: gjm 05 November 2012 12:59:28PM 25 points [-]

I took the survey and answered every question. Like many others here, I found that the iqtest.dk result was distinctly lower than any other estimate of my IQ I've had. I was miles out on the calibration date question. There was one probability question -- I forget which -- for which it was extremely not-obvious whether you were supposed to enter a percentage or a probability.

Comment author: TraderJoe 05 November 2012 10:11:39AM 25 points [-]

Taken it. Suggestion [if it's possible to change] - we should add the option to unanswer an answered question. Right now you can change your answer from A to B, but not from A to non-A and non-B.

Comment author: Emily 05 November 2012 09:12:01AM 25 points [-]

I took the survey :) thanks for running it again!

Comment author: komponisto 05 November 2012 08:43:49AM 25 points [-]


Comment author: DubiousTwizzler 05 November 2012 06:13:12AM 25 points [-]

Just took my second survey. Been lurking a while now, this is my first comment.

Comment author: blashimov 05 November 2012 05:28:22AM 25 points [-]

I took all of it!

Comment author: drenan 05 November 2012 04:18:55AM 25 points [-]

Took the survey.

Did anyone else find the IQ questions to be either boringly easy or impossibly hard? I don't think I answered anything that required more than 15s of thought.

Comment author: dv82matt 05 November 2012 03:45:54AM 25 points [-]

Did it.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 November 2012 01:41:12AM 25 points [-]

Took it.

Comment author: Kutta 04 November 2012 02:17:06PM 25 points [-]

Took all of them.

Comment author: TrE 04 November 2012 10:09:06AM 25 points [-]

I accidentally hit the enter key before I was done and my answers were submitted. I'm dumb.

Comment author: Giles 04 November 2012 05:05:50AM 25 points [-]

Minor points on survey phrasing...

P(Global catastrophic risk) should be P(Not Global catastrophic risk)

You say in part 7 that research is allowed, but don't say that research is disallowed in part 8, calibration year.

In the true prisoner's dilemma article, it doesn't appear to give any information about the cognitive algorithms the opponent is running. For this reason I answered noncommittally, and I'm not sure how useful the question is for distinguishing people with CDTish versus TDTish intuitions.

Similarly in torture versus dust specks I answered not sure, not so much due to moral uncertainty but because the problem is underspecified. What's the baseline? Is everybody's life perfect except for the torture or dust specks specified, or is the distribution more like today's world with a broad range of experiences ranging from basically OK to torture?

I might have given an inflated answer for "Hours on the Internet", as I'm on the computer and the computer is on the Internet but it doesn't necessarily mean I'm actively using the Internet at all times.

Comment author: Ben_Welchner 06 November 2012 08:26:42PM 24 points [-]

In accordance with ancient tradition, I took the survey.

Comment author: ahartell 06 November 2012 08:14:21PM 24 points [-]

Took the survey.

Comment author: avantguard 06 November 2012 07:33:30PM 24 points [-]

Took the survey on my iPhone so could only fill out half the answers. Politics questions were hilarious. Official delurk.

Comment author: ChrisPine 06 November 2012 06:37:36PM 24 points [-]

Took the survey.

Comment author: Salemicus 06 November 2012 01:55:03PM 24 points [-]

I took the survey, but, like others, I was unable to answer the American-style school questions.

Comment author: Crude_Dolorium 05 November 2012 09:32:50PM 24 points [-]

I took the survey, and the extra credit, and the pretext to delurk.

Comment author: roryokane 05 November 2012 12:09:41AM 24 points [-]

I took the survey.

One thing I was unsure about: the appropriate answer to the question “Referrals: How did you find out about Less Wrong?”. I answered “Referred by a link on another blog”. But I actually investigated and discovered Less Wrong after seeing a bunch of links to it on Hacker News. Hacker News is really a link aggregation site or social news site, not a blog. But I thought that that answer was better than choosing “Other” and writing in “link from an aggregation site”.

Comment author: JDM 04 November 2012 10:30:34PM *  24 points [-]

I just found this site, but this was an interesting survey and between that and the intelligence of conversation about it in the comments convinced me to sign up and read more on here.

Also, I did most of the questions, but I'm on an iPad and the iq test didn't load for me, so I'll do it on a computer later.

Comment author: simplicio 04 November 2012 10:04:10PM 24 points [-]

I am continually amused by how much nuance the contrarians of LW want in these questions. Even I thought the simulation question was ill-posed & wanted a "mu" answer.

Politics is always nearly hopeless, short of asking people to write a 14-page essay on their particular chimera of left-libertarian whig marxism, or whatever.

Comment author: tgb 04 November 2012 02:40:45PM 24 points [-]

On my chrome 22 in Ubuntu, the 'links' were neither links nor selectable (whenever I selected one, it would immediately unselect it), which made accessing any of those questions rather annoying. I ended up opening the survey in FireFox to get the links.

Comment author: Dre 04 November 2012 02:39:01PM 24 points [-]

Took most of it. I pressed enter accidentally after the charity questions. I would like to fill out the remainder. Is there a way I can do that without messing up the data?

Comment author: faul_sname 04 November 2012 07:16:47AM 24 points [-]

If you're using Chrome, the Big 5 site is much more tolerable if you open console and run this line of javascript:

for(i in document.all) document.all[i].style['background-color'] = '#fff';

That sets the background color to white for everything instead of their hideous color scheme.

Comment author: pleeppleep 07 November 2012 04:50:22AM *  23 points [-]


Only cost me an hour of my time!

(Minus, of course, the two additional hours spent staring at a corner, crying and lamenting my various emotional insecurities brought up by the IQ and personality tests)

Comment author: Legolan 06 November 2012 08:21:46PM 23 points [-]

Took the survey. It was quite interesting! I'll be curious to see what the results look like . . . .

Comment author: thomblake 06 November 2012 06:40:13PM 23 points [-]

I took the survey

Comment author: Baruta07 06 November 2012 05:47:11PM 23 points [-]

Survey: Completed, no problems. Dithered quite a bit when asked what my position was on the true Prisoners dilemma. And I keep consistently overshooting the estimation dates by 100 years (almost precisely, on the previous survey I overshot by 105 years, this time overshot by 120ish). I've started getting more involved in the community over the past 3 months.

Comment author: aausch 06 November 2012 05:18:59PM 23 points [-]


Comment author: CAE_Jones 06 November 2012 01:26:13PM 23 points [-]

Taken, though I had to skip the IQ test because it wasn't screen reader accessible (flash, with some text labels but no accessible controls, not that flash in general is particularly accessible).

Comment author: thomblake 05 November 2012 05:24:50PM 23 points [-]

Took it.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 November 2012 11:46:41AM 23 points [-]

It looks like I wasn't the only one who had difficulty selecting the links, and so had to type them in manually.

Yvain or a mod- Can we get all the links from the survey pasted into the body of the OP so that those of us who couldn't select them have an easier access mode than manual copying?

Comment author: clgroft 05 November 2012 12:38:45AM 23 points [-]

Took the vast majority. The OCEAN test seemed mostly wrong, the IQ seemed low (big shock, right? Shouldn't have raced through, I guess), and my Myers-Briggs was ENFJ, which is just bizarre.

Also, I've commented a few times, never posted.

Comment author: pre 04 November 2012 08:08:47PM 23 points [-]

i typed my age then hit return which submitted the form with only one answer. so then i filled it in again. you'll want to ignore that first entry. dinner arrived as i did that so that was a couple of hours ago now. age is 39 if that helps.

Comment author: AspiringRationalist 07 November 2012 01:53:07AM 22 points [-]

took it

Comment author: wanderingsoul 07 November 2012 12:58:02AM 22 points [-]

Took the survey, plus the IQ test out of curiosity, I'd never had my IQ tested before.

Along similar reasoning, do we know how well the iqtest.dk test correlates with non-internet tests of IQ? Getting a number is cool, knowing it was generated by a process fundamentally different than rand(100,160) would be even better

Comment author: SPLH 06 November 2012 09:48:44PM 22 points [-]

Been there, done that survey...

I'm curious about the results.

Comment author: Raoul589 06 November 2012 02:57:10PM 22 points [-]

I just took the survey, making this my first post that someone will read!

Comment author: bsterrett 06 November 2012 02:56:17PM 22 points [-]

I took the survey! Karma, please!

Never done an IQ test before. I thought it was fun! Now I want to take one of the legitimate ones.

Comment author: blogospheroid 06 November 2012 02:33:51PM 22 points [-]

Took the survey. Was tired to take the IQ test. Thanks for the opportunity.

Comment author: twanvl 04 November 2012 11:25:32PM *  22 points [-]

CFAR Question 1: not constructively.

CFAR Question 6: what kind of archaic unit is 'feet'? I was able to answer by remembering that 3 feet ~= 1 meter.

Income: before or after tax? I answered after taxes, which for me is 65% of the income before taxes.

Comment author: FrankGarza 07 November 2012 07:37:09PM 21 points [-]

I did everything except the IQ test. I took that test before and retook it until I figured out how to solve all the problems. I could not recall what I got on it the first time. Strangely in the survey I said staying anonymous is important to me and then I created an account with my real name.

Comment author: Stephanie_Cunnane 06 November 2012 09:08:55PM 21 points [-]

Done and done.

Comment author: selylindi 05 November 2012 09:26:53PM *  21 points [-]

I took it.

For the P(Warming) question, you might get people answering different versions of the question on this. For example, my personal evaluation of the probability of warming and that humans are a major cause is very, very high, but my evaluation of the probability that humans are the primary cause is much lower.

Comment author: rejuvyesh 04 November 2012 04:21:33PM 21 points [-]

I too have taken the survey, it's been some time since I commented.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 November 2012 06:36:52PM 20 points [-]

Done with the entire thing. :)

Comment author: MTGandP 07 November 2012 12:21:31AM 20 points [-]

Done. I think a lot of these questions are really fascinating, including user-submitted questions. I'm especially interested to see if we can do any better at avoiding anchoring than the general public.

Comment author: Neurosteel 06 November 2012 11:19:19AM 20 points [-]

After having read all of the Sequences, I suppose its time I actually registered. I did the survey. Here are the cogno-stats:

Big Five O80 C83 E79 A83 N9 IQ 122 Myers-Briggs E33 N88 T1 J33 Autism 15

I'm doing my PhD in the genetics of epilepsy (so a neurogenetics background is implied). Is anyone familiar with data on the reliability of the various cogno-metrics that are out there?

(Aside: political metrics L/R:-2.25 A/L:-3.54, pretty centrist on most issues, just make them based on actual data and I'll change my view in a femtosecond)

Comment author: matsn 05 November 2012 09:02:25PM 20 points [-]

Survey completed!

Comment author: Vaniver 05 November 2012 08:18:18PM *  20 points [-]

Done! I only estimated my amount of time in the community, though, which may lead to an amusing disagreement with last year's survey.

Comment author: Dorikka 05 November 2012 01:23:45PM 20 points [-]

In your base, answering your survey.

Notes (might not want to read unless you've already taken the survey):

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Comment author: FAWS 04 November 2012 05:43:35PM 20 points [-]

I wonder whether there are visible conversion effects on the redwood question for native metric users? Estimates slightly on the short side and neatly divisible by three because the quick and dirty meter -> feet conversion is multiplying by three?

Comment author: BT_Uytya 09 November 2012 09:26:36PM 19 points [-]

I took the survey.

Guys, you are seriously need to start using metric system or at least include the necessary number in the meters. Going to Google twice in order to calculate the relevant numbers was... frustrating.

(By the way, I have never donated to any charity before, but I sworn in a grand manner that it will be in the list of the first five things I will do with my PayPal account when I get one)

Comment author: rhollerith_dot_com 07 November 2012 01:28:51AM 19 points [-]

Took it.

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Comment author: Dannil 05 November 2012 08:09:24PM 19 points [-]

Done, except for the very last part and the IQ questions (I have never taken a proper test).

Comment author: Reuven 08 November 2012 10:13:09AM 18 points [-]

Done and done. And this makes for my very first comment. The first of many.

Comment author: Cakoluchiam 08 November 2012 04:10:06AM 18 points [-]

Survey taken: check! Account finally registered: check, please!

I was off by 50%ish on the two estimation questions, but I forgive myself Bayes' age since I really know nothing about history in "space-of-time" context. The redwood tree on the other hand was a geometry problem for me, more than anything else, and I misjudged its incline by half a degree.

Comment author: Jost 07 November 2012 10:29:12PM 18 points [-]

I took most of the survey, except for the (aptly named) “Unreasonably Long and Complicated Questions” at the end.

Comment author: Friendly-HI 07 November 2012 01:17:59PM *  18 points [-]

Took it minus the three personality tests and minus the very last few questions. I still know my IQ from a former test and I had my NEO-FFI results already stored somewhere but couldn't find the right hard-drive quick enough. Autism... don't think I would score very high on that but my fallible intuition says lesswrong seems like quite the paradise for autistic personalities.

Sincerely curious about the results :)

I also guessed the size of the biggest redwood tree incredibly well :) By converting my guesstimate in meters to some form of archaic measurement only used by cavemen and Americans. What's up with that?

Comment author: MaoShan 07 November 2012 03:24:41AM 18 points [-]

I answered everything but the personality test links, I will take them when I have more free time.

Comment author: TraderJoe 06 November 2012 10:35:27AM 18 points [-]

Next year the survey should include an option to explain why your IQ is actually higher than was measured.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 November 2012 12:18:28AM 18 points [-]

Fear me for I answered all the questions and took all the auxillary tests!

Comment author: Epiphany 04 November 2012 08:49:56PM *  18 points [-]

Problem: You might want to specify "this year's survey" in the following line, otherwise people may think that having taken a previous year's survey means they do not need to take this year's survey to be counted:

Everyone who took the survey before, your responses are still saved and you don't have to take it again.

Comment author: ArthurDenture 04 November 2012 02:38:34PM *  18 points [-]

Took the survey.

I hope this question isn't used the way I worry it will be used:

CFAR Question 3

A certain town is served by two hospitals. In the larger hospital, about 45 babies are born each day. In the smaller one, about 15 babies are born each day. Although the overall proportion of girls is about 50%, the actual proportion at either hospital may be greater or less on any day. At the end of a year, which hospital will have the greater number of days on which more than 60% of the babies born were girls?

This question was easy for me to answer by pattern-matching to the Law of Small Numbers, as outlined in Thinking, Fast and Slow. If I hadn't read that, it's hard to say whether I would have reasoned it out correctly. So if many respondents answer this question correctly, I hope that the survey authors don't claim evidence that LW readers are better at statistical reasoning -- it'd be more accurate to say that LW readers are more likely to have seen this very particular question before.

(I could, naturally, be assuming too much about the intents of the survey authors.)

Comment author: gwern 04 November 2012 12:28:48AM 51 points [-]

Muflax offers his feedback on some of the survey questions:

  • Treat the three digit number that you just wrote down as a length, in feet. Is the height of the tallest redwood tree in the world more or less than the number that you wrote down?: Feet! Fuck you, barbarians. I refuse to answer.
  • What is your best guess about the height of the tallest redwood tree in the world (in feet)?: Why not beard-seconds? Seriously, fuck you.
  • ...Height: 185cm (oh, now you can use sane units, you stupid imperialist pig-dogs)
Comment author: AnthonyC 08 November 2012 09:49:14PM 17 points [-]

Completed every last question.

Also, I've noticed that on different IQ tests (real ones, not fake ones) my scores vary by as much as 40 points. Hmm.

Comment author: fezziwig 08 November 2012 01:05:29PM 17 points [-]

Done. Finished most of it, stalled for days waiting for time to do the extra credit, noticed I was doing that, submitted. I'll look forward to the results.

Comment author: kvasarnomad 08 November 2012 12:57:51PM 17 points [-]

Took it, lurker who just broke ones position on not posting on the net. Had to skip last questions and tests thou, going to try them next..

Comment author: tetsuo55 06 November 2012 12:29:53PM 17 points [-]

I Took the survey and all the extra questions. I could not answer the USA centric school test results, we have a similar system in my country but they cannot be easily converted to eachother.

I'm glad to finally have a BigFive and IQ test that people somewhat agree on using.

Comment author: MugaSofer 06 November 2012 11:50:54AM *  17 points [-]

Did it a few days ago, only just noticed the karma.


P(Supernatural) What is the probability that supernatural events, defined as those involving ontologically basic mental entities, have occurred since the beginning of the universe?

What if you believed in, say, angels or ghosts that used powers from outside the matrix?

Comment author: nshepperd 06 November 2012 08:27:43AM 17 points [-]

Done! Yay!

Comment author: Nighteyes5678 06 November 2012 07:49:26AM 17 points [-]

Completed. Huzzah! I feel like a participating member of the community.

Comment author: Mexamark 06 November 2012 03:02:35AM 17 points [-]

I just took it but I'd like to make a few points:

At the end of a year, which hospital will have the greater number of days on which more than 60% of the babies born were girls?

Is it asking about the total number of babies born at the day or babies born at each hospital?

Redwood question.

Please, use meters next time.

Comment author: Jay_Schweikert 06 November 2012 01:19:57AM 17 points [-]

Took basically all of the survey except for the extra IQ tests. Thanks, Yvain! Looking forward to seeing the results.

Comment author: Mestroyer 04 November 2012 07:35:19PM 17 points [-]

I study computer engineering (which is about arranging transistors on silicon to make computer hardware). I checked "Computers (other academic, computer science)," rather than "Engineering," even though computer engineering is not computer science, because I thought that category was more specific than engineering, and less specific than the category including only computer science.

But this was kind of unclear.

On the question "Given that no label can completely describe a person's political views, with which of these labels do you MOST identify?"

I am probably halfway between liberal and libertarian. So I flipped a coin and picked liberal.

For the calibration IQ question, I could have given my probability that my real IQ was higher than the median IQ here. But then you wouldn't be able to check it against anything to determine my calibration, because I have never taken a real IQ test and left the field blank. Maybe you should put a different question instead of that calibration one?

For the Hours Writing question, it says schoolwork counts. Does code count, if written for schoolwork? I guessed no. Do answers to problems from textbooks that are kind of half-math, half-writing count? I guessed yes.

The "Anonymity" question should be broken into two. It doesn't give you an option for "It would be easy to find my real name, and I am unhappy about that."

I tried to take the IQ test, and had 35 seconds left, when Flash plugin in my browser crashed. I was about to take a screenshot and save my answers, and re-enter them after reloading the page, but the tab went dark. Retaking it would probably not give good results now.

Comment author: Bruno_Coelho 08 November 2012 02:23:45PM 16 points [-]

Done. I hope this data help LW/CFAR.

Comment author: DaFranker 06 November 2012 04:17:38PM 16 points [-]

I did all of it yesterday minus the IQ test, BigFive and Autism due to lack of time and being too tired. Will take those three today.

Overall, the survey was more fun than I expected.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 06 November 2012 12:15:23PM 16 points [-]


Comment author: kimsia 04 November 2012 02:50:56AM 45 points [-]

I took survey. Long time lurker 1St time poster

Comment author: shinoteki 10 November 2012 03:49:20PM 15 points [-]

I took it.

Comment author: drnickbone 09 November 2012 01:33:47PM *  15 points [-]

Just taken - my first LessWrong census!

Interesting questions, though as a committed Bayesian I was very embarrassed that I couldn't even remember which century he was born! Guessed at about 20% chance of my estimate being within 20 years of the true date which it wasn't. So I was wrong, but at least right that I was wrong. I suppose that is "less wrong"?

Comment author: MBlume 04 November 2012 06:45:55PM 15 points [-]

Is income before or after taxes?

Comment author: gwern 03 November 2012 11:34:10PM *  41 points [-]

And done. I look forward to the Big Five scores, personally.

Comment author: VincentYu 05 November 2012 05:02:59PM 13 points [-]

Commenting here because this is the highest voted comment mentioning the Big Five.

The Big Five personality test linked to in the survey is an online implementation of the Big Five Inventory (BFI). It was used in two studies: Srivastava et al. (2003) and Gosling et al. (2004.

The most recent canonical citation of the BFI is John et al. (2008). The BFI is very widely used in the literature, so descriptive statistics (i.e., mean and SD) for different populations are available from many studies.

The percentiles from the online test were approximated under a Gaussian assumption (scores on Big Five inventories are typically not well-approximated by Gaussians, so the percentile rankings are bound to be off). Everyone was normed to the same distribution (i.e., age, gender, etc. do not affect the results; only the 44 questions on the BFI do). The exact mean and SD used by the test to calculate percentile rankings are as follows (converted to the usual 5-point Likert scale):

  • E: mean = 3.30, SD = 0.88
  • A: mean = 3.66, SD = 0.70
  • C: mean = 3.40, SD = 0.76
  • N: mean = 3.15, SD = 0.85
  • O: mean = 3.85, SD = 0.65

In order to compare LW's results to norms in the literature, we need to convert the percentiles back to the 5-point scale. This is easy; just use an inverse CDF. Unfortunately, we are unable to recover the full range of results because some scores at the tails were rounded to the same percentile bins (note that the "percentiles" were actually rounded values from the CDF, so each percentile bin was shifted by 0.5 percentiles from what they should have been; truncation/floor should have been used instead of rounding).

As a quick comparison to the norms used by the online test, here are norms for the BFI from Donnellan et al. (2006) (n = 300, 78.7% female, sampled from undergraduates enrolled in psychology courses at Michigan State University):

  • E: mean = 3.43, SD = 0.72
  • A: mean = 3.82, SD = 0.56
  • C: mean = 3.63, SD = 0.60
  • N: mean = 2.93, SD = 0.73
  • O: mean = 3.50, SD = 0.57

Because we do not have the individual responses for each item on the BFI, we will be unable to test the fit of the five-factor model to LW data or to confirm the expected factor loading of each item.

Comment author: thomblake 09 November 2012 09:58:36PM 14 points [-]

I took a survey.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 November 2012 05:48:13PM 14 points [-]

Survey taken.

Comment author: NoahTheDuke 09 November 2012 04:54:01PM 14 points [-]

I took the survey, and did all of the extra credit work too!

That IQ test seemed really silly, but I've never taken one before, so who knows?

Comment author: Cthulhoo 09 November 2012 04:26:24PM 14 points [-]

Done, except for the unreasonably long extra credit section, mostly due to not having time to take the tests now and not knowing when I could possibly manage to do it in the future.

Good work Yvain, it's been a pleasure to take the survey, and it will be a plesure to see the results.

Comment author: solaire 09 November 2012 06:05:51AM 14 points [-]

Been a lurker for a relatively short time, took the survey.

I had some concerns over the extra credit questions and one thing in particular that prompted me to respond. I agree it seems there was meant to be no right answer to a couple of the questions, and the babies in the hospital was at least a clear statistical problem. I also had an admittedly whimsical objection to the lack of details on one question, thanks to the level of specificity seen in riddles, puzzles, and so on here, and maybe due to a programmer background thinking of pointers and assignments. The first CFAR question should have specified to start something like there are three people in a room. Then it's clear there's not a person looking at himself in a mirror, or more than three people with some having the same first name, or creatively a statue or painting, with one human looking at the artwork which is facing another human. (Would be a good one with Lisa implying the Mona Lisa, but connotations of names shouldn't be relevant)

However, what I was really curious about was the redwood question. Surprisingly, I knew the answer pretty much exactly and later noticed the complaints about using feet as a unit which was rather strange. I remembered this exact question was from a recent study in a psychology journal on cognitive biases.

It seems likely the question was written with knowledge of the study in mind, to test for anchoring bias, considering many other things could have been chosen other than the height of redwood trees in feet. I really hope the intention was not to take these results to say, "LW readers conclusively have less anchoring bias than people in the psychology study." As the maximum number that could possibly be generated by the RNG (999) iirc is lower than an anchoring number given in the study (1000), presumably few survey participants if any would answer the tree height is greater than that. Due to the RNG anchor likely being much closer to the true value anchoring bias will be less than in the psychology study by nature of how the question was presented.

Comment author: EStokes 07 November 2012 05:51:47AM *  14 points [-]

If the right thing to do is the consequentialist thing to do, and an outcome turns out bad, but it was still the best choice with the information one knew at the time, would that be consequentialism or virtue ethics?

edit: Ok, I completed the survey and just guessed. Would still like to know the answer though.

Comment author: Divide 07 November 2012 02:34:13AM 14 points [-]

Huh, I got the date almost right - sadly, the date of death.

Comment author: Dreaded_Anomaly 04 November 2012 01:31:26AM 39 points [-]

Took it. Yvain is a gentleman and a scholar for putting so much time and effort into this.

Just a few comments:

It could be a little clearer that the Calibration IQ question in Section 8 should only be answered by those people who reported an IQ in Section 5.

A GRE score question (as I requested in what is currently the fifth-most-upvoted top-level comment in the survey critiques thread) would have been nice. It was cool to see the Political Compass, AQ test, and iqtest.dk on there, though.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 09:37:10PM 38 points [-]

Took the survey, and a lot of the extra credit. I need a karma infusion, stat!

I assumed it was okay to use a pen and paper for the CFAR questions. For a few of the questions, I found it helpful to write down the given information and some rough calculations.

Also, on the probability estimates, I pretty much tried to translate my gut feelings about things into a number. (Contrary to the sequence posts that explicitly advise us against doing that.) I haven't worked to get a rigorous probability estimates for most (if any) of the questions posed. I imagine a lot of people are in the same position, and the conclusions drawn from the data should take this into account.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 12:22:57AM 38 points [-]

Took it!

Did any one else have trouble copy-pasting the links?

I normally score insanely high on Openness to experience (says she of the massive amounts of really weird hobbies), but for this test, I scored really low on Openness. Must be feeling particularly close-minded today. Weird.

Comment author: Alejandro1 18 November 2012 04:17:48PM 13 points [-]

Took it.

Doing the Political Compass survey reminded me of what an awful survey it is. Most of the questions cannot be given a truthful "agree or disagree" answer without serious qualification, so the only way to take the survey is to figure out for each question which side will you be interpreted as cheering/booing the most with each answer, and choose which side to cheer/boo.

Comment author: Alex_Altair 11 November 2012 09:47:31PM 13 points [-]

Took it.

I wish there were more questions! Non-jokingly, I wish there were more questions about FAI, MWI, and other complex content things. I want more people to pick my brain and tell me if I'm consistent.

Comment author: primemountain 10 November 2012 09:43:45AM *  13 points [-]

Took the survey. All of it. :) EDIT:huh, completely missed the point in the doctor Q. I figured it was not my place to tell him what to do, but offer him all the possibilities and let the patient choose( he will be paying for it). Otherwise you are just guessing what the patient wants. EDIT2: rot13: Abj gung v qvq fbzr pnyphyngvbaf v guvax v xabj n ybg bs crbcyr gung jbhyq ybir gb rnea 4$ na ubhe whfg univat n zvtenvar.8 gb 10 u n qnl, 5 qnlf n jrrx, pbzrf bhg gb 800$ n zbagu.(juvfgyr). jbj. Npghnyyl v jbhyq abg zvaq fhpu n wbo. Fb v thrff vg pbzrf qbja gb jurer lbh ner yvivat. Jurer v yvir, zbfg snzvyl'f bs 4 trg ba jvgu yrff zbarl. Nobhg 550$ n zbagu.

Comment author: therufs 09 November 2012 04:33:08AM 13 points [-]

DONE, sweet fancy moses. No flash on tablet=no IQ test for me :/

Comment author: aspera 09 November 2012 12:02:21AM 13 points [-]

Nice job writing the survey - fun times. I kind of want to hand it out to my non-LW friends, but I don't want to corrupt the data.

Comment author: wesley 08 November 2012 10:53:10PM 13 points [-]

Did it. Was enjoyable for me!

Comment author: magfrump 06 November 2012 04:14:50AM 13 points [-]

I was 26 years off on Bayes' birth and 21 feet off on the tallest redwood.

Also the first time I took the IQ test I accidentally hit the back button on my mouse, and didn't remember how much time I was supposed to have left, so I just went through everything and submitted right away. I'm not sure how much I would have gotten out of the last 5-10 minutes or whatever but it made me feel bad.

I felt like the Big 5 test rated me lower on Openness and Conscientiousness than I remember from tests in the past, but those are from long long ago. The Myers-Briggs rated me as more F and J than I expected (or less T and P) and I think the question framing is maybe bad for someone who lives in faulty emotional hardware in a mathematical universe.

I reproduced my results from all of the tests verbatim, regardless of whether I agreed with them; I noticed at least one comment of someone who did not, and I'm wondering how common people's responses to disagreement with personality tests was.

Comment author: Pesto 04 November 2012 12:02:14AM 37 points [-]

Took it.

Comment author: BenPS 04 November 2012 07:42:21AM 36 points [-]

I took the survey.

Comment author: Antisuji 04 November 2012 05:23:32AM 36 points [-]

I took it, on a Saturday night, and scored 7 on Extroversion. Pardon me while I step out to go to a party.

Comment author: maia 04 November 2012 01:55:39AM 36 points [-]

Took the survey. Does the "Do you intend to have children" question refer to the immediate future, or in your lifetime?

Comment author: sanxiyn 04 November 2012 08:36:54AM 15 points [-]

I interpreted that question as "in your lifetime".

Comment author: BayesianCoward 04 November 2012 08:40:01AM 35 points [-]

I took the survey and participated in the complementary karma orgy!

Comment author: Kawoomba 04 November 2012 06:47:50AM 35 points [-]


Pretense for posting here:

How are the redwood tree questions relevant, don't they mostly test trivia knowledge?

Comment author: [deleted] 04 November 2012 01:12:43AM 35 points [-]


Comment author: covaithe 15 November 2012 09:09:53PM 12 points [-]

Done. I, too, took the bait to come out of long-time-lurker status and post after this. :)

Comment author: Nornagest 04 November 2012 07:12:07AM 34 points [-]


Comment author: Jakeness 04 November 2012 06:02:48AM 34 points [-]

Just took the survey. Out of curiosity, why is it ancient tradition to upvote for this?

During the part of the survey where you describe your gender and sexual orientation, I thought it might be a good idea to have another question asking to rate your libido on a numbered scale. Perhaps also another question asking your romantic disposition, as it is possible to be asexual but not aromantic.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 04 November 2012 03:19:17AM 34 points [-]

Karma me!

Comment author: Nominull 04 November 2012 09:01:40AM 33 points [-]

Took the survey. Somehow I've managed to lose a decent chunk of IQ over the past 15 years...

Comment author: [deleted] 22 November 2012 09:58:56AM *  11 points [-]

Taken, de lurked, most everything done because I was bored and curious. I hadn't felt like registering an account for a while because I don't know if I have much to add, but I figured.... you know, fuck it. I ought to have stuff to ask and I can always get another account if this one embarrasses me in the future.

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The political compass survey just made me think how little I've actually thought about politics. I kept saying "What? I don't know!" so I skipped that one.

One thing concerns me.... How the hell does IQ drop 20 points over four years without my having a concussion or stroke or something? I have at times subjected myself to gnarly sleep deprivation. Maybe my ADD is worse. Maybe the higher score reflects verbal aptitude. (And if so, should that count towards "true iq"?) Can anyone tell me what seems to them the most likely?

Definitely have a lot of research to do


Hi everybody! =]

Comment author: lhopegood 18 November 2012 09:21:58AM 11 points [-]

Lurker, first time poster. Did all the extra credit. Time to research it all :)