JTHM comments on 2013 Less Wrong Census/Survey - Less Wrong

78 Post author: Yvain 22 November 2013 09:26AM

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Comment author: JTHM 05 January 2014 05:02:22AM 1 point [-]

Was I the only person who shamelessly defected only because the defect/cooperate choice isn't really a prisoner's dilemma at all? Obviously, if enough of us defect that the payout is diminished, the winner receives less, but whoever would be paying for the prize would have that much less money missing from his pocket. I would not have defected if I expected my defection were to result in a net loss of resources. For the 2014 survey, how about we try this again, with the modification if enough people defect for the payout to be reduced, a good of equal market value to the reduction in payout shall be purchased and destroyed? (You can't just burn the money, because that's not actual destruction of value, just redistribution of value to everyone else who owns units of that same currency.)

Comment author: knb 06 January 2014 06:54:09PM *  1 point [-]

Was I the only person who shamelessly defected only because the defect/cooperate choice isn't really a prisoner's dilemma at all?

Nope, I said the same thing here.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 06 January 2014 05:39:35AM 0 points [-]

or the 2014 survey, how about we try this again, with the modification if enough people defect for the payout to be reduced, a good of equal market value to the reduction in payout shall be purchased and destroyed?

Or perhaps for every person that defects Yvain forces himself to listen to X minutes of some music he despises, or watch some show he hates?

I really don't want Yvain to suffer penalties because of the defection of jerks, but that's what true 'defection' must mean, that someone gets hurt. All in all, I can't advise in good conscience for the test to be repeated next year.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 19 January 2014 02:09:21AM 0 points [-]

That's still not "true defection" though, because we all like Yvain and don't want to annoy him.