Why should we privilege that hypothesis?
So you are saying that there are only two choices: (1) privileging the hypothesis; and (2) substantially ruling it out?
No. Or at any rate, that's not an interesting claim,
If it's not interesting to you, then probably you should not have tried to answer my question. Here is the claim which was made:
Had this case occurred before DNA testing was available, Knox and Sollecito would most likely have been convicted, but a DNA test should have been sufficient to exonerate them.
I asked this:
Exactly what DNA evidence do you believe exonerates them?
And you said this:
The DNA evidence showing that Guede was the killer.
Since Guede's fingerprints were (apparently) found at the scene, extra DNA evidence which confirms his presence at the scene should not have much of an effect on anyone's assessments of the likelihood of any conclusion.
So you are saying that there are only two choices: (1) privileging the hypothesis; and (2) substantially ruling it out?
In a word: yes.
The hypothesis in question has low prior probability, and hence is "substantially ruled out" by default, unless there is strong evidence pointing to it. In this case, there isn't; people who think there is are, almost invariably, anchoring on the probability that they assigned (or that the investigators assigned) to Knox and Sollecito's guilt before Guede was discovered.
...If it's not interesting to you, then pr
Continuing my interest in tracking real-world predictions, I notice that the recent acquittal of Knox & Sollecito offers an interesting opportunity - specifically, many LessWrongers gave probabilities for guilt back in 2009 in komponisto’s 2 articles:
Both were interesting exercises, and it’s time to do a followup. Specifically, there are at least 3 new pieces of evidence to consider:
Point 2 particularly struck me (the press attributes much of the acquittal to the expert report, an acquittal I had not expected to succeed), but other people may find the other 2 points or unmentioned news more weighty.
2 Probabilities
I was curious how the consensus has changed, and so, in some spare time, I summoned all the Conscientiousness I could and compiled the following list of 54 entries based on those 2 articles’ comments (sometimes inferring specific probabilities and possibly missing probabilities given in hidden subthreads), where people listed probabilities for Knox’s guilt, Sollecito’s guilt, and Guede’s guilt:
It’s interesting how many people assign a high-probability to Knox being guilty; I had remembered LW as being a hive of Amanda fans, but either I’m succumbing to hindsight bias or people updated significantly after those articles. (For example, Eliezer says .15 is too high, but doesn’t seem otherwise especially convinced; and later one reads in Methods of Rationality that "[Hagrid] is the most blatantly innocent bystander to be convicted by the magical British legal system since Grindelwald's Confunding of Neville Chamberlain was pinned on Amanda Knox.")
EDIT: Jack graphed the probability against karma:
2.1 Outliers
If we look just at >41% (chosen to keep contacts manageable), we find 12 entries out of 54:
I have messaged each of them, asking them to comment here, describing if and how they have since updated, and any other thoughts they might have. (I have also messaged the first 12 commenters or so, chronologically, with <41% confidence in Knox’s guilt, with the same message.) The commenters:
AngryParsley / Cyan / Daniel_Burfoot / Eliezer_Yudkowsky / GreenRoot / John_Maxwell_IV / LauraABJ / Mario / Matt_Simpson / Morendil / Psychohistorian / Shalmanese / Threads / Unknowns / badger / bentarm / bgrah449 / bigjeff5 / brazil84 / dilaudid / jimmy / kodos96 / lordweiner27 / mattnewport / nerzhin / tut
I look forward to seeing their retrospectives, or indeed, anyone's retrospectives on the matter.