The family of the British girl killed in Italy expressed dismay that the original evidence was unreliable and has accepted that Amanda Knox may be innocent after all.
Is this really true? It isn't reflected in the quotes that I've read so far.
I went and did a bit more reading on the Troy Davis case, and I don't think they're that comparable. In the evidentiary hearing, the court found that several of the alleged recantations by witnesses were not recantations at all; most of the witnesses were still claiming Davis's guilt. The murder weapon was never recovered, so they have no prints.
Considering the unreliability of eyewitnesses, especially when the police are encouraging a particular response, it's a lot less confidence than I'd want before applying the death penalty, setting aside the issue of whether it's ever an appropriate punishment, but I don't think it can reasonably be compared to the Knox and Sollecito trial, where the defendants were almost certainly innocent.
The family of the British girl killed in Italy expressed dismay that the original evidence was unreliable and has accepted that Amanda Knox may be innocent after all.
Is this really true? It isn't reflected in the quotes that I've read so far.
Indeed it isn't -- what they have said is that they plan to support the prosecution's appeal of the acquittal. (In fact, as the Italian system allows, they are actually a party to the case, seeking a monetary judgement against Knox and Sollecito. [This fact should not be confused with the recent false reports that they were planning to sue Knox in another jurisdiction.])
Continuing my interest in tracking real-world predictions, I notice that the recent acquittal of Knox & Sollecito offers an interesting opportunity - specifically, many LessWrongers gave probabilities for guilt back in 2009 in komponisto’s 2 articles:
Both were interesting exercises, and it’s time to do a followup. Specifically, there are at least 3 new pieces of evidence to consider:
Point 2 particularly struck me (the press attributes much of the acquittal to the expert report, an acquittal I had not expected to succeed), but other people may find the other 2 points or unmentioned news more weighty.
2 Probabilities
I was curious how the consensus has changed, and so, in some spare time, I summoned all the Conscientiousness I could and compiled the following list of 54 entries based on those 2 articles’ comments (sometimes inferring specific probabilities and possibly missing probabilities given in hidden subthreads), where people listed probabilities for Knox’s guilt, Sollecito’s guilt, and Guede’s guilt:
It’s interesting how many people assign a high-probability to Knox being guilty; I had remembered LW as being a hive of Amanda fans, but either I’m succumbing to hindsight bias or people updated significantly after those articles. (For example, Eliezer says .15 is too high, but doesn’t seem otherwise especially convinced; and later one reads in Methods of Rationality that "[Hagrid] is the most blatantly innocent bystander to be convicted by the magical British legal system since Grindelwald's Confunding of Neville Chamberlain was pinned on Amanda Knox.")
EDIT: Jack graphed the probability against karma:
2.1 Outliers
If we look just at >41% (chosen to keep contacts manageable), we find 12 entries out of 54:
I have messaged each of them, asking them to comment here, describing if and how they have since updated, and any other thoughts they might have. (I have also messaged the first 12 commenters or so, chronologically, with <41% confidence in Knox’s guilt, with the same message.) The commenters:
AngryParsley / Cyan / Daniel_Burfoot / Eliezer_Yudkowsky / GreenRoot / John_Maxwell_IV / LauraABJ / Mario / Matt_Simpson / Morendil / Psychohistorian / Shalmanese / Threads / Unknowns / badger / bentarm / bgrah449 / bigjeff5 / brazil84 / dilaudid / jimmy / kodos96 / lordweiner27 / mattnewport / nerzhin / tut
I look forward to seeing their retrospectives, or indeed, anyone's retrospectives on the matter.